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explore the bazaars your e-ticket ride

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into the world of the paranoid strap

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yourself in as we traverse the universe

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exploring the unexplained UFO s ghosts

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cryptozoology waters as well as other

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dimensions it's time to take back the

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night now your electrifying hosts of

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exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley and

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team sports Jim can you push me on the

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swing make it go higher

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well sure Tim here hold up wait a minute

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what are you doing on a swing

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are you regressing back to a Senat

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childhood we I'm hoping the UFO will

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return I want to meet the spacemen the

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children saw the spaceship and I'm

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waiting for them to come back since its

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nearing the anniversary of the incident

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we push me higher okay okay Tim

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according to to our guest tonight

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children have been targeted by the

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aliens having landed next to a

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elementary junior high and even high

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schools colleges too I think oftentimes

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humanoids have been seen I guess it's

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because the children are so innocent

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sure I'm innocent sure otherwise how

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could you account for those aliens

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approaching us no I don't know but maybe

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Preston Dennis can offer us some clues

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we can

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hey let's go beating back of the KC or

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our Studios where we'll be safe from any

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alien intruders

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well I want to go higher and higher and

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higher I Tim I think you're high enough

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to yeah I it seemed it seems that way

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I've been practicing for my medical

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marijuana I guess I don't know

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hey if so how you out there in Jasper

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Indiana oh we're doing great as are as

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always just just a little slice of

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paradise out here oh boy oh boy well I

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just got back from Atlantic City where I

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I lost my now actually we don't do even

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the example we just go out to enjoy the

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fresh air which I don't have very much

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of here in picturesque Manhattan no and

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it's a nice little nice little ride out

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and some great food in the in the

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resorts and then it's back on the

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Greyhound to do art just in time to do

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our show and I think we've got a great

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deaf program tonight because we have one

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of our old friends on who's really not

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knowledgeable on the subject of UFOs

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we've known Preston for many years he

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was a regular contributor to UFO a

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universe and wrote some very great

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articles and has continued to contribute

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to a number of books that we've

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published in recent times and fact

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you're finishing up now on Tim our

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Schwartz is incredible alien encounters

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book and there's a very lengthy section

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in there by Preston on healing

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also terrestrials whatever you want to

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call them and we'll get in that into

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that later on in the show but Preston

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has a new book out which I'm very

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anxious to find out about so once you

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give us a little bit of introduction Tim

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and take it away

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sure well ok Preston's latest book is

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called a schoolyard UFO encounters and

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questions about that book because it

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really is a fascinating topic now

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Preston began investigating UFOs Timmy

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and the paranormal starting around 1986

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when he discovered that his family

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friends and co-workers were having

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dramatic unexplained encounters since

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then he has interviewed hundreds of

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witnesses and investigated a wide

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variety of paranormal phenomena

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now Preston's a field investigator for

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and the author of 24 probably more than

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numerous magazines including fate

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and television programs and his research

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LA Daily News that Dallas Morning News

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and other newspapers so Preston thanks

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for being back with us again on

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exploring the bizarre hey always a

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pleasure thanks for having me on oh man

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Kenny we couldn't go six months without

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talking get to it cuz it seems you've

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got a new book out all the time - how

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did you come up with it now this is a

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little bit unusual now I know about two

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or three cases involving schoolyards

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investigated and there's another one in

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Australia and there's there's one I

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would consider a close call involving a

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children in Russia where I landed in the

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park I don't know how close to the

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school that was but that got a lot of

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publicity in that particular case and in

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fact the New York Times interviewed me

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for an article that they did on that but

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you've been researching the subject for

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a long time now and you're pretty

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open-minded about all of this how did

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you come across all these cases yeah I

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kind of stumbled across that I knew

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about those cases you mentioned there's

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a couple of other really famous cases

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Australia Westall high school and no yes

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um bunch of kids saw that another case

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in opa-locka Florida Dade County at

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Crestview elementary school and of

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course the Hillsdale Michigan incident

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at Hillsdale College that's right yeah

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yeah that's that skipped my mind of

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course it's not a elementary at school

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but it was that a girls college or I

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remember the seeing the pictures of the

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girls were looking out the the window at

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the yeah right okay it came for the

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girls dorm actually there was like yeah

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yeah eighty-seven students or so saw

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police saw it school administrators it

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was really the incident that sparked all

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this certainly the interest in it at the

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time Jim and Cora Lorenzen warned that

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they were receiving a lot of cases over

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schools and at the same time raving

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followers I got one for you how much is

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it Sharon Stahl you know that the case

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with a girl that grew five-and-a-half

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inches

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yeah that's right yeah Albuquerque New

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Mexico she was standing in the

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schoolyard and this UFO came over and I

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believe burned her face rather a badly I

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don't know whether she went to the

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hospital or not but I came across that

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today I was thumbing through our UFO

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hostility book and I remembered that

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case that's always been one of my that's

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always been one of my favorites I I wish

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that somebody had followed up on that

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story to see you know she grew like

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supposedly five million if injures and

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what a couple of months time or

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something like that whether she could

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still blame that on the UFO that she saw

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yeah I'd like a follow-up too cuz I know

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all about the case that was Lowell

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elementary school April 29th 1964 just a

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few days after the Lonnie Zamora landing

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which wasn't far away a very similar

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described craft as well it's a great

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case and typical of these kinds of cases

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no your typical what UFO sighting is

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sort of a flyby of an anomalous light

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perhaps at night these cases are

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completely different they're in

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fundamental ways first of all they're

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targeting schools directly it's not a

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coincidence they come from you know the

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horizon or wherever and come right over

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the school they occur during the day

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they last much longer than the average

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sighting you know hours sometimes over a

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period of days they're very low level

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you know of the hundreds some cases I

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found there about 30% of these objects

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actually landing next to the schools and

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there's humanoids coming out 30% now

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what it what is the earliest case that

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you found at dealing with the schools

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and children write the absolute earliest

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was a case in 1853 at Burak college in

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tennessee story on that yeah yeah it's a

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complete outlier I couldn't find any

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other cases for another 100 years but

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this is a typical case that this

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occurred very early in the morning a

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bunch of students saw two very bright

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lights over the college they couldn't

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identify him one was pulsing brightly

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and the other would dim become dimmer

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and then they would sort of change

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places it was clear display of very

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unusual objects that uh clearly wanted

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to be seen and how many would have any

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witnesses there were dozens of witnesses

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and some teachers they wrote to a

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science magazine no the only explanation

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they had way back then was you know

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astronomical yes they really didn't

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think about heat ease and no the public

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consciousness so much when did the next

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stick acacia occur you know the earliest

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this was sluttin C 1953 1953 five

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students were out on the playground or

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there's the teacher miss Holbrook and

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this two UFOs come swooping down over

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the playground scare the Wits out of the

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kids these are particular objects were

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very loud

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and the kids scattered screaming you

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know some were throwing up if you

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fainted it was a big kill

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and they these objects just took off and

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everyone was trying to get themselves

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together you know I about an hour later

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these objects returned there was four of

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them this time

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and they came much closer they were

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clearly unexplained and again this sort

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of started this regular I'm gonna say

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every year I'm the average there's

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actually like two per year the really

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close up sighting like this or landing

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over a school and and get this half hour

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Elementary School's half of the cases

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hmm well now which was the the you said

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earlier maybe we said earlier that a lot

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of these cases did involve humanoids

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what is the first case that you know of

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involving a humanoid very early case in

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1909 July 24th in Kelso New Zealand this

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is sort of the end of the airship yes

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wave which was really you know what to

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turn in the century but it trailed off

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for a number of years and a bunch of

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students saw this sort of airship with a

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figure in it come right low over the

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school it moved very quickly and again

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had this sort of behavior wanting to be

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seen and showing off and once it

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actually you know there's drawings of

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this thing the kids all were taken

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separately and drew pretty much exactly

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the same thing you know - and this is in

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1909 yeah and and what what did they

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what did the humanoids look like just a

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man a figure human looking figure that

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couldn't really see much because it was

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just far enough away where you couldn't

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see the features but yeah that's pretty

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early humanoid case there's not a whole

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lot of early humanoid cases really at

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all and now okay so what would you say

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is the the one that had the the most of

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the students involved would that be them

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well a Wellington case

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there was a case in New Zealand at in a

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you know by coincidence this is all over

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the world by the way England yes you

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know pretty much everywhere but there's

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a case in New Zealand let's see I was

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maraenui New Zealand and there was four

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hundred students who saw this thing its

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Richmond school it was a bright

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beautiful warm sunny day May 17th 1972

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teachers were on the playground and

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suddenly it became completely silent

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when they looked at the kids and all the

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kids are looking up this thing

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approaching the playground and it was

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described as a huge black disc covering

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about 1/3 of the sky absolutely gigantic

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and maybe two three thousand feet up

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most I was just you know up on the high

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end for these objects stayed there for a

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good five ten minutes to load it a

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little bit to the side turn on its edge

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and shot straight up now mind you

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there's an airport right next to her

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pretty you know very close three four

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miles didn't see a thing so they said

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what what is the attitude I remember the

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one case that doctor Mac his was in

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South Africa right that he went to

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investigate right Rose and Bob way right

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okay and I remember the children did

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drawings of the of the craft and the and

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what you know what what they observed

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what is the attitude towards most of the

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educators maybe I would use that in

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quote the the teachers and the

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principals as far as the children

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well okay before we go there what

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percentage of cases would be elementary

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what percentage would be a junior middle

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school I believe they call it and what

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percentage would be high school I mean

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is there more in one division than the

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other

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yeah 50% our elementary schools which i

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think is significant because you know

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young children are they're clearly

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targeting our youngest children but

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otherwise pretty evenly divided between

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high school and junior high with a few

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outliers with colleges you know but

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comparatively I would say about 10

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percent is colleges so very well divided

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between all age groups and and what what

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has the added attitude been as far as

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the students a lot particularly the

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younger ones have never heard of UFOs

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have never you know so it's completely

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new experience for them which they sort

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of absorb an unadulterated way they've

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got no preconceptions about what these

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things are the students by and large are

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very impressed and it's something they

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remember for the rest of their lives

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some of them have gone on to become UFO

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investigators or you know physicists and

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quantum physicists and really into the

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subject this sort of thing right that's

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that's interesting I mean that that

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would make a book in it in itself too I

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guess that's what dr. Mac was trying to

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do to some extent is interview some of

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the students later on in life which

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would be probably a very interesting you

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know concept and and and a way of seeing

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how their attitudes on their life and

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also their parents how it may have

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affected their their families oh yeah

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this this is there's been some real

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trials for the families for sure because

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sometimes the parents don't believe or

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kind of this really interesting case in

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that regard comes from Leonard

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Stringfield who got a call from a

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frantic father who says my son is

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missing

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he called you yesterday to report a UFO

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is that right and Leonard Stringfield

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says yes you know but I wasn't home I

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got the message well the kid was missing

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turned out he had come home from school

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the day before and said a UFO followed

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him home and his parents didn't believe

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him the next morning he left a note

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saying I'm leaving this UFO is coming to

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abduct me

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he had withdrawn $500 from the bank he's

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a high school student and was missing

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they called the police they did

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eventually find him at Atlanta Airport

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brought him home Leonard Stringfield got

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the whole story out of him it turned out

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a year earlier he was at high school on

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the playground this object comes

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swooping down telepathically

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communicates with them saying you know

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we were going we're coming for you type

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of thing

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and scared the Wits out of him he went

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home that night had a visitation by gray

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type ETS who says you need to come with

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us

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you know don't be afraid we won't hurt

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you the whole spiel that they give and

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poor kid carried the secret for about a

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year and finally asked his parents for

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help and got rejected took off huh

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no I I do remember over the years like

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when I was doing the UFO review the

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official and only flying saucer

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newspaper at the time and still is I

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think historically there were a couple

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of cases of involving rather teenagers

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very young teenager

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there was a fourteen-year-old boy and I

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don't remember the specific details were

403
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in the name but he took a series of what

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seemed to be a rather impressive

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photographs I think there were four or

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five pictures in the in the series and

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then there was another youngster and I

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don't think he was much older maybe 15

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or 16 who did some very interesting

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drawings of aliens he might have been

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the youngest contact D I don't know

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about their education or whether any

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this happened at school or not but it it

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seems the kind of tie in with as you say

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at targeting the you know a young

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teenagers for teenagers did any do you

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know what any cases that where kids got

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the spell that the word just fell from

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school well I mean certainly there was

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controversies with teachers who deny the

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incident

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about half the cases maybe a little bit

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less teachers do see these objects yeah

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and they don't often react well I'm

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about half the cases they don't react

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well and completely deny it and don't

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want to look at it and or call the kids

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back inside but in some cases I mean

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like the Australia case there was

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teachers who saw this same with the

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opa-locka Crestview elementary school

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case teachers have gone on record saying

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that this was an unexplained object or

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UFO flying saucer and often I mean there

435
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was a case in Marysville Ohio at an

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elementary school where this object

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dropped down all this angel hair all

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over the playground it was a clear

439
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display it was right on the school and

440
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the teachers were able to gather the

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stuff the principal had it they sent two

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samples off to the local air force base

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never heard back by the way on the court

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but this case was one of several which

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does do generate interest from no

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government officials and did have you

447
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know any you know any cases where the

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children might have been contacted more

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than once you know maybe on a

450
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face-to-face uh basis that's pretty rare

451
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in terms of like following a visitation

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at a school than to have a humanoid

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visit you later there's you know the one

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I mentioned I know this did happen in

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the rural Zimbabwe case a number of your

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students there ended up having lifetime

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of contact and this does turn up for

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sure in other cases as well particularly

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with high school in Italy is in Bali

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case what kind of messages were they

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receiving oh it's such a great pace it's

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really the ultimate case there's like

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200 kids on the playground some 60

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children see this object land and a

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smaller group see the humanoids come up

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and just a handful got any communication

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and it was the same message basically

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with variations for each student that

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did get a message and it was

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environmental mine

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and this is 1994 and one was told that

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you know you you must tell people to

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stop cutting down the forests another

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was warned about our warlike ways and

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aggressions another was warned about

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pollution

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another lady she's this is all through

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sort of imagery and stuff she said that

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the ETS told her that we were becoming

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to technological there's a good way to

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use technology and a bad way and we

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could do much better so these were

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pretty clear-cut messages set on

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environmentalism in a time when you know

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rural Zimbabwe certainly it wasn't a

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talking point you know what what did the

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what were the humanoids described as

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looking like in that case short

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humanoids with dark uniforms perhaps a

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stripe across it one was described as

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you know very big dark eyes like we

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usually hear pale skin one was described

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as having hair interesting ly enough

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long black hair so you get some

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variations there we are we talking about

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we're talking about space color types

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anna-lysa well not in a friendly human

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looking way I'm frightened but it's

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pretty bad well we've got all right I

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take a break here yeah and we'll be back

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now back to exploring the bazaars with

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two of the most electrifying researchers

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in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy Becca

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Lee hunting lists welcome back to

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exploring the bazaar I'm Tim Schwarz

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tonight our guest is Preston Dennett and

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we've been talking about

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his most recent book schoolyard UFO

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encounters and Preston some of these

510
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cases have involved the the kids seen

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occupants are you familiar with the

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Malaysian accounts that took place in

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1969 and 70 when the the kids saw some

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some rather unique UFO occupants yeah

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actually I am

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there was some really good cases in

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those cases these were very tiny little

518
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humanoids you know a foot high piloting

519
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an equally small flying saucer there was

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one student who was apparently struck by

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a beam of light coming from you know

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sort of Raygun type instrument when he

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tried to approach one of these things

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and it was initially just his story he

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showed his wound he had gone missing and

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they found him unconscious outside but

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later there was further encounters in

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which multiple students saw these things

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and a couple of encounters where

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teachers saw them too they saw one of

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these things land on the playground and

532
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they went running up to it these are

533
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over a period of years or this occurred

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over the late 60s in early 1970s but

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definitely different from your average

536
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case perhaps here in the US yeah that's

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that's fascinating a part about these

538
00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:16,550
cases is that this it wasn't just one

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encounter but like you said I mean there

540
00:26:25,410 --> 00:26:22,060
were several and they always seem to

541
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single out schoolyards like like all

542
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these all these other cases except you

543
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know these guys were definitely I don't

544
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know I mean they're they're fun sized

545
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UFO occupy yes but I think there's an

546
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agenda going on here clearly this

547
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behavior is very specific and I think

548
00:26:47,790 --> 00:26:45,370
what they're trying to do is create a

549
00:26:50,370 --> 00:26:47,800
sort of universal belief in UFO is among

550
00:26:52,410 --> 00:26:50,380
the younger generation and it's been

551
00:26:54,990 --> 00:26:52,420
very effective because that's pretty

552
00:26:56,550 --> 00:26:55,000
much what we're seeing well okay now

553
00:26:59,250 --> 00:26:56,560
that's that's a good point you know you

554
00:27:02,730 --> 00:26:59,260
had mentioned in the first segment of

555
00:27:11,660 --> 00:27:02,740
the program some of the witnesses at the

556
00:27:16,890 --> 00:27:15,210
just a couple years ago you had one of

557
00:27:20,550 --> 00:27:16,900
the students a woman by the name of

558
00:27:25,260 --> 00:27:20,560
Emily trim who came forward with her

559
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:25,270
experiences and I mean you know the the

560
00:27:29,210 --> 00:27:27,190
things that that she talked about I

561
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:29,220
think it surprised a lot of people

562
00:27:34,620 --> 00:27:32,290
because the assumption had always been

563
00:27:37,290 --> 00:27:34,630
that these kids had you know see in the

564
00:27:42,690 --> 00:27:37,300
UFO may be seeing the occupants but that

565
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:42,700
the the message is that information

566
00:27:48,450 --> 00:27:45,240
really hadn't hadn't gotten out too much

567
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:48,460
right yeah it's really an amazing case

568
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:50,890
there's a documentary that's been put

569
00:27:54,570 --> 00:27:52,090
together that's supposed to be coming

570
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:54,580
out at some point worked on for many

571
00:28:01,140 --> 00:27:57,610
years which will tell the whole story

572
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:01,150
it's not an isolated sighting by the way

573
00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:03,910
most of these school settings are part

574
00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:06,100
of a sort of a cluster of sightings but

575
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:08,200
usually I do ultimate case surrounding

576
00:28:12,060 --> 00:28:09,610
you know their settings before and

577
00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:12,070
afterwards but nothing quite like what

578
00:28:18,930 --> 00:28:15,520
we're seeing at these schools which and

579
00:28:21,210 --> 00:28:18,940
the rural Zimbabwe case may sound unique

580
00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:21,220
but it's not I was contacted by Ray

581
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:24,040
Hernandez who's interviewed a teacher

582
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:27,190
from Columbia who describes pretty much

583
00:28:32,250 --> 00:28:30,490
exactly the same scenario messages are

584
00:28:35,250 --> 00:28:32,260
pretty rare I've only got a few cases of

585
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:35,260
that but you know the roux is a Bible

586
00:28:38,250 --> 00:28:35,710
case me

587
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:38,260
involved missing time Cynthia hi and the

588
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:42,370
first investigator on the scene talked

589
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:43,570
quite a bit about that

590
00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:45,010
the possibility that there was no time

591
00:28:53,399 --> 00:28:47,380
distortion and certainly that turns up

592
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:53,409
in a lot of the cases so okay now you

593
00:29:00,779 --> 00:28:55,690
said that you know youth you think that

594
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:00,789
this is possibly an attempt to to

595
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:04,320
actually put this mindset in children

596
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:10,840
about the reality of of UFOs nowadays I

597
00:29:17,310 --> 00:29:14,830
mean you know here we are 2019 I think

598
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:17,320
that more and more people are very well

599
00:29:23,250 --> 00:29:20,770
aware of the UFO phenomena not everybody

600
00:29:27,529 --> 00:29:23,260
may be convinced on its reality but

601
00:29:31,769 --> 00:29:27,539
compared to when a lot of these

602
00:29:34,019 --> 00:29:31,779
encounters originally took place you

603
00:29:37,169 --> 00:29:34,029
know certainly hardly anybody even you

604
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:37,179
know considered the reality of UFOs now

605
00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:39,730
look at us today I read you do you think

606
00:29:47,130 --> 00:29:43,390
that there is a correlation here taking

607
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:47,140
place oh yeah clearly is I mean we have

608
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:49,809
UFOs leading our box office science

609
00:29:56,130 --> 00:29:52,330
fiction aliens this sort of thing it's

610
00:29:59,100 --> 00:29:56,140
all over our video games it's the most

611
00:30:01,760 --> 00:29:59,110
common trope in science fiction it's

612
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:01,770
permeated our society to a large degree

613
00:30:06,659 --> 00:30:04,570
and I think what ETS are doing is sort

614
00:30:09,539 --> 00:30:06,669
of landing without landing if you know

615
00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:09,549
what I mean right doing sort of their

616
00:30:14,190 --> 00:30:12,340
best to make us aware of their presence

617
00:30:16,590 --> 00:30:14,200
without completely disrupting society

618
00:30:18,389 --> 00:30:16,600
and children are unique witnesses and

619
00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:18,399
that they're gonna remember this for

620
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:20,440
sure but they're also not gonna be

621
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:22,390
really listened to you know people

622
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:24,490
aren't gonna take them super seriously

623
00:30:30,180 --> 00:30:27,840
because they're kids and I think that's

624
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:30,190
one of the reasons that they're using

625
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:33,010
you know using children I don't that's

626
00:30:40,260 --> 00:30:34,570
that's not the right word using but you

627
00:30:44,220 --> 00:30:40,270
know know well and you know the in a lot

628
00:30:47,169 --> 00:30:44,230
of these cases I mean you had adults and

629
00:30:52,029 --> 00:30:47,179
teachers who act also

630
00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:52,039
were witnesses yet they most of them

631
00:30:58,119 --> 00:30:55,129
really balked at coming forward and

632
00:31:01,299 --> 00:30:58,129
saying yeah you know we we saw it too

633
00:31:04,479 --> 00:31:01,309
you know when their superiors would ask

634
00:31:06,669 --> 00:31:04,489
them you know what did you see many of

635
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:06,679
them said nothing I didn't say anything

636
00:31:11,889 --> 00:31:09,609
kids nuts all right not always though

637
00:31:13,779 --> 00:31:11,899
that certainly did happen one lady I

638
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:13,789
interviewed she had an experience in

639
00:31:19,389 --> 00:31:15,529
Missouri at Point Pleasant Elementary

640
00:31:21,729 --> 00:31:19,399
School this was in 1966 which was a huge

641
00:31:23,589 --> 00:31:21,739
year that was the Hillsdale sighting was

642
00:31:25,089 --> 00:31:23,599
then two weeks after the Hillsdale

643
00:31:28,419 --> 00:31:25,099
sighting two weeks was the

644
00:31:31,299 --> 00:31:28,429
melbourne-australia Westall high school

645
00:31:33,249 --> 00:31:31,309
landing this took place that year as

646
00:31:36,009 --> 00:31:33,259
well at Point Pleasant Elementary School

647
00:31:37,989 --> 00:31:36,019
where this you know six students decided

648
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:37,999
they weren't going to play you know

649
00:31:42,700 --> 00:31:40,399
Foursquare where that day they were

650
00:31:44,709 --> 00:31:42,710
gonna play tag over out in the field and

651
00:31:46,089 --> 00:31:44,719
came upon these little tiny footprints

652
00:31:47,349 --> 00:31:46,099
and they're looking at these footprints

653
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:47,359
trying to figure him out because they

654
00:31:52,869 --> 00:31:50,409
were humanoid but way too small and

655
00:31:55,239 --> 00:31:52,879
someone pointed and there's this object

656
00:31:58,149 --> 00:31:55,249
landed in the trees this is how it

657
00:31:59,889 --> 00:31:58,159
always goes down these objects land in a

658
00:32:02,079 --> 00:31:59,899
grove of trees behind the skull and

659
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:02,089
their first thought was ice cream truck

660
00:32:07,450 --> 00:32:05,570
mmm so they go running tour of course

661
00:32:08,349 --> 00:32:07,460
what else yeah ice cream truck of the

662
00:32:11,019 --> 00:32:08,359
trees make sense

663
00:32:12,729 --> 00:32:11,029
yeah they there was no roads there

664
00:32:15,399 --> 00:32:12,739
there's just a little farm there's some

665
00:32:16,839 --> 00:32:15,409
for cows and they go running up to this

666
00:32:18,909 --> 00:32:16,849
thing and of course not an ice cream

667
00:32:21,849 --> 00:32:18,919
truck it's a silver craft it's landed

668
00:32:24,099 --> 00:32:21,859
and it's got what bright white lights

669
00:32:26,139 --> 00:32:24,109
and there's a humanoid standing I'm

670
00:32:28,329 --> 00:32:26,149
fairly close to it much closer to the

671
00:32:30,430 --> 00:32:28,339
kids you know they were about 20 feet

672
00:32:33,459 --> 00:32:30,440
away from the humanoid not fifty feet

673
00:32:35,499 --> 00:32:33,469
away from the object you made is looking

674
00:32:38,139 --> 00:32:35,509
right at them they all line up in a row

675
00:32:40,869 --> 00:32:38,149
to look at this thing and the witness is

676
00:32:43,450 --> 00:32:40,879
I have you ever heard of an ET like this

677
00:32:46,779 --> 00:32:43,460
and she described this short humanoid

678
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:46,789
buried large dark eyes but its skin was

679
00:32:55,209 --> 00:32:50,570
dark and had a very muscular body which

680
00:32:57,339 --> 00:32:55,219
reminded her of a gymnast really and she

681
00:33:00,970 --> 00:32:57,349
said it its face almost look like a

682
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:00,980
gorilla but not quite

683
00:33:06,370 --> 00:33:04,370
I'm like well no I haven't quite it was

684
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:06,380
a unique description this being just

685
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:09,049
slowly backs up towards the [\h__\h] and

686
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:11,690
it's walking towards it passes the cow

687
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:16,159
touches the cow the cow drops over her

688
00:33:22,060 --> 00:33:19,970
unconscious apparently and suddenly the

689
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:22,070
teacher is behind them screaming out of

690
00:33:25,990 --> 00:33:22,970
her mind

691
00:33:28,269 --> 00:33:26,000
mrs. Ohlendorf she sees it too and she

692
00:33:30,789 --> 00:33:28,279
is terrified and pulls the kids butt

693
00:33:33,909 --> 00:33:30,799
back inside pulls the entire playground

694
00:33:35,649 --> 00:33:33,919
back inside the kids rushed to the

695
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:35,659
window they're looking at this you know

696
00:33:39,490 --> 00:33:36,769
the lights they could still see the

697
00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:39,500
lights in the forest there and she

698
00:33:43,539 --> 00:33:41,750
closes the blinds calls the principal

699
00:33:44,919 --> 00:33:43,549
calls all the other teachers they closed

700
00:33:49,659 --> 00:33:44,929
the school down they send the children

701
00:33:51,610 --> 00:33:49,669
home early aha and next day never

702
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,620
happened they refused to talk about it

703
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:53,120
no one will talk about of course it's

704
00:33:55,409 --> 00:33:54,529
the buzz of the school for you know

705
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:55,419
weeks

706
00:34:01,240 --> 00:33:58,399
but the adults know they weren't having

707
00:34:06,310 --> 00:34:01,250
it there was not a word from them mm-hmm

708
00:34:10,359 --> 00:34:06,320
well and and I suppose that if there is

709
00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:10,369
some kind of program going on so to

710
00:34:17,250 --> 00:34:13,399
speak you know with whatever is the

711
00:34:19,329 --> 00:34:17,260
source of the the UFO phenomena you know

712
00:34:21,069 --> 00:34:19,339
possibly they've you know figured out

713
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:21,079
that they're not going to influence

714
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:23,929
adults you know their minds are closed

715
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:28,639
that it's going to be the children you

716
00:34:36,220 --> 00:34:30,530
know the net in the upcoming generations

717
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:36,230
that are going to be influenced yeah I

718
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:37,550
think that's exactly what they're doing

719
00:34:41,169 --> 00:34:39,530
here and that's why they're going for

720
00:34:44,609 --> 00:34:41,179
the elementary schools another great

721
00:34:47,490 --> 00:34:44,619
case 1955 would set elementary school

722
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:47,500
120 students see multiple objects

723
00:34:52,540 --> 00:34:49,970
principal is there he sees it too who

724
00:34:55,210 --> 00:34:52,550
mom as does another teacher and they

725
00:34:57,129 --> 00:34:55,220
drops a huge pall of angel hair again

726
00:34:59,470 --> 00:34:57,139
this is one year after the Jerome

727
00:35:01,150 --> 00:34:59,480
Elementary School case kids are running

728
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:01,160
around they're picking it up when kids

729
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:02,690
stuffs it in his mouth before the

730
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:07,040
teacher can stop him it does not taste

731
00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:10,010
good he said salt they didn't say didn't

732
00:35:18,579 --> 00:35:14,630
think it was cotton candy a purple

733
00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:18,589
does look like that that's how they but

734
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:21,049
they did say sample of this sent it off

735
00:35:25,450 --> 00:35:22,729
to Burlington labs who couldn't identify

736
00:35:27,549 --> 00:35:25,460
it said it might be spiderwebs you

737
00:35:29,799 --> 00:35:27,559
should contact a biologist which they

738
00:35:33,849 --> 00:35:29,809
did and the biologist has noticed

739
00:35:35,710 --> 00:35:33,859
absolutely not spider webs but yeah this

740
00:35:38,739 --> 00:35:35,720
milk the military took an interested in

741
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:38,749
this case and tried to debunk it and had

742
00:35:43,269 --> 00:35:41,210
a confrontation with the principal who

743
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:43,279
turned out to be a war veteran with

744
00:35:50,170 --> 00:35:47,210
forty combat missions from World War two

745
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:50,180
so I basically put the Air Force in

746
00:35:57,489 --> 00:35:53,720
their place good for him for standing up

747
00:36:01,390 --> 00:35:57,499
though for it Preston you you seem to

748
00:36:05,469 --> 00:36:01,400
take you take the approach that these

749
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:05,479
are benevolent beings because I know in

750
00:36:09,849 --> 00:36:07,670
this book that we're going to have out

751
00:36:12,819 --> 00:36:09,859
hopefully in the next couple of weeks

752
00:36:16,469 --> 00:36:12,829
Tim Schwartz is incredible alien in

753
00:36:19,989 --> 00:36:16,479
counters you have a quite a lengthy

754
00:36:22,660 --> 00:36:19,999
section in there on the people who have

755
00:36:26,130 --> 00:36:22,670
been healed by UFOs and I think you

756
00:36:28,569 --> 00:36:26,140
mentioned earlier that your last book

757
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:28,579
covered this and your first book and in

758
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:31,249
fact when you started writing on the the

759
00:36:37,269 --> 00:36:34,249
subject your first book was on healings

760
00:36:43,779 --> 00:36:37,279
and UFOs so do you see an overall a

761
00:36:45,609 --> 00:36:43,789
benevolent a plan from these beings well

762
00:36:49,269 --> 00:36:45,619
I can tell you without a doubt that one

763
00:36:51,339 --> 00:36:49,279
of the agendas and Gent this is very

764
00:36:54,249 --> 00:36:51,349
generally speaking greys humanoids

765
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:54,259
mantids is healing humanity there are

766
00:36:58,509 --> 00:36:56,210
simply too many cases coming from all

767
00:36:59,890 --> 00:36:58,519
researchers yourself included that

768
00:37:03,430 --> 00:36:59,900
you've got you've had a number of cases

769
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:03,440
John Mary Budd Hopkins Barbara lamb

770
00:37:07,569 --> 00:37:06,049
Yvonne Smith you can't name a prominent

771
00:37:10,809 --> 00:37:07,579
researcher who hasn't run across these

772
00:37:13,209 --> 00:37:10,819
types of cases they're just what what am

773
00:37:15,099 --> 00:37:13,219
i what one of my favorite cases is the

774
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:15,109
in and I'm sure you've written about it

775
00:37:20,620 --> 00:37:17,119
and this is an are incredible alien

776
00:37:24,279 --> 00:37:20,630
encounters book is the police officers

777
00:37:27,219 --> 00:37:24,289
down in Texas one of them had been

778
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:27,229
bitten by I thought it was a snake but I

779
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:28,430
think Tim said it was

780
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:31,010
a pet alligator or something where his

781
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:34,130
he was healed his hand was outside of

782
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:37,250
the the window and in in the UFO came

783
00:37:45,850 --> 00:37:38,900
overhead and I guess stuffed them with a

784
00:37:49,390 --> 00:37:45,860
beam right deputy Robert Goode was what

785
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:49,400
was it a snake or a pet alligator there

786
00:37:54,910 --> 00:37:52,490
was a baby pet alligator yeah you're

787
00:37:58,890 --> 00:37:54,920
right you won on this one son of a gun I

788
00:38:03,340 --> 00:38:01,000
yeah that's a great case one of those

789
00:38:06,340 --> 00:38:03,350
officers by the way was a supervisor of

790
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:06,350
like 30 or 40 other officers I'm great

791
00:38:16,690 --> 00:38:14,570
witnesses and that was what in 1964 um

792
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:16,700
gosh you know I'd have to look that up I

793
00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:18,890
think yeah that's about right um it's

794
00:38:24,190 --> 00:38:21,140
definitely one of the early cases cases

795
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:24,200
yeah yeah and in fact we have I think we

796
00:38:30,580 --> 00:38:26,450
have a that we have a photo in the book

797
00:38:35,770 --> 00:38:30,590
Tim of the the police officer yes yes we

798
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:35,780
do and okay what was what was your what

799
00:38:38,970 --> 00:38:37,510
was your first book on the healing

800
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:38,980
called

801
00:38:44,010 --> 00:38:42,050
Preston and what is the last one that

802
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:44,020
you've done they have similar titles

803
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:46,610
yeah the first book I did was called UFO

804
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:48,530
healings first one I ever wrote that was

805
00:38:55,330 --> 00:38:51,500
1996 and it covered a hundred cases and

806
00:38:59,350 --> 00:38:55,340
I I you know got a lot of cases after

807
00:39:01,480 --> 00:38:59,360
that this new book covers 300 cases and

808
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:01,490
had been getting a lot of requests and

809
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:04,130
that first book had become you know very

810
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:07,610
hard to find yes so I put this new book

811
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:11,450
out and I said called what I think I saw

812
00:39:16,810 --> 00:39:14,510
it for sale on eBay for like $300 or

813
00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:16,820
something yeah that first one is getting

814
00:39:20,650 --> 00:39:17,630
really pricey

815
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:20,660
okay I can't even up that bad there you

816
00:39:24,940 --> 00:39:22,490
go yeah well I've had problems with that

817
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:24,950
recently on a couple of books and I said

818
00:39:29,170 --> 00:39:26,810
I can't put word and put this back into

819
00:39:30,430 --> 00:39:29,180
my own library anymore you know that's

820
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:30,440
why you gotta hold on to these things

821
00:39:37,510 --> 00:39:33,980
and what what is the also to you've done

822
00:39:40,090 --> 00:39:37,520
quite a few books on UFOs in New York

823
00:39:42,190 --> 00:39:40,100
and your app that's almost like a whole

824
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:42,200
series UFOs over certain

825
00:39:47,290 --> 00:39:45,170
States yeah I think that was an

826
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:47,300
important thing to do a number of other

827
00:39:51,970 --> 00:39:49,369
people have taken that up for various

828
00:39:55,390 --> 00:39:51,980
other states but I did New York or

829
00:39:59,200 --> 00:39:55,400
California first then New York Colorado

830
00:40:02,140 --> 00:39:59,210
New Mexico Arizona Nevada and in his

831
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:02,150
historical style to sort of document all

832
00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:03,650
this stuff because a lot of its getting

833
00:40:08,020 --> 00:40:06,380
lost to posterity I've got all these old

834
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:08,030
news clippings and all these old

835
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:11,170
paperbacks you just can't find anymore

836
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:13,609
so I thought it was really important too

837
00:40:18,910 --> 00:40:16,910
that UFOs are taken more seriously and

838
00:40:20,109 --> 00:40:18,920
they were being and we're seeing that

839
00:40:23,620 --> 00:40:20,119
now you know there's not as many

840
00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:23,630
debunkers out there now and people are

841
00:40:28,030 --> 00:40:25,700
along their names to be used we're

842
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:28,040
seeing this discussed much more freely

843
00:40:31,990 --> 00:40:29,270
it was brought up in the White House

844
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:32,000
press room this here I think it was this

845
00:40:37,240 --> 00:40:34,880
year there was nervous titters and

846
00:40:40,750 --> 00:40:37,250
laughter about it but hey it was brought

847
00:40:44,020 --> 00:40:40,760
up yeah they still at least are bringing

848
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:44,030
it up right I mean we've had almost no

849
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:46,130
movement officially in terms of you know

850
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:49,910
the disclosure front which is gonna have

851
00:40:57,910 --> 00:40:54,079
to bust wide open at some point when our

852
00:41:02,349 --> 00:40:57,920
going back to the the schoolyard

853
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:02,359
encounters what is the most recent case

854
00:41:09,099 --> 00:41:06,790
that you've run acrost well in terms of

855
00:41:10,930 --> 00:41:09,109
humanoids there aren't a whole lot of

856
00:41:13,030 --> 00:41:10,940
recent cases that I could find the most

857
00:41:17,980 --> 00:41:13,040
recent really good humanoid case was in

858
00:41:20,770 --> 00:41:17,990
1998 in Sri Lanka at at a QM primary

859
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:20,780
school or two students who would go

860
00:41:25,690 --> 00:41:22,970
there early to open up the school saw

861
00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:25,700
landed UFO right next to the school I'm

862
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:28,430
gonna smack next to it it took off

863
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:30,650
straight up and other students were

864
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:33,050
coming to the school by that time and

865
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:35,450
there was these landing traces these

866
00:41:39,569 --> 00:41:37,130
were very reputable students you know

867
00:41:43,089 --> 00:41:39,579
who are eligible for scholarships and

868
00:41:45,130 --> 00:41:43,099
certainly not the type to lie multiple

869
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:45,140
witnesses and turns out the kids were

870
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:46,910
very familiar with this UFO they called

871
00:41:51,130 --> 00:41:49,490
it coca or stork in their language

872
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:51,140
because it kept flying over this cool

873
00:41:55,660 --> 00:41:54,650
pretty regularly so that's a fairly

874
00:41:58,930 --> 00:41:55,670
recent

875
00:42:04,150 --> 00:41:58,940
a humanoid case or a landing case rather

876
00:42:06,250 --> 00:42:04,160
in terms of sightings the most recent

877
00:42:08,770 --> 00:42:06,260
really good case I could find was April

878
00:42:12,809 --> 00:42:08,780
2nd 2018 at West

879
00:42:15,940 --> 00:42:12,819
Nessus cool and I believe Indonesia

880
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:15,950
during the day this very bright Sun like

881
00:42:19,390 --> 00:42:17,930
object comes right down over the school

882
00:42:21,940 --> 00:42:19,400
the teacher took a picture of it on her

883
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:21,950
cellphone but you can't see it it's just

884
00:42:27,970 --> 00:42:25,280
a you know white there's so the picture

885
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:27,980
didn't come out but scared the Wits out

886
00:42:32,380 --> 00:42:29,569
of the students they were very impressed

887
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,390
teacher was freaking out too they had no

888
00:42:37,690 --> 00:42:34,640
idea what it could possibly be totally

889
00:42:42,130 --> 00:42:37,700
silent thoroughly large and went away

890
00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:42,140
just kind of took off but what I found

891
00:42:48,329 --> 00:42:45,049
you know I've got you know 220 a number

892
00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:48,339
of cases from 2019 which are just not

893
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:51,470
like one or two witnesses you know what

894
00:42:56,620 --> 00:42:52,730
I'm looking for is when the whole school

895
00:42:58,660 --> 00:42:56,630
sees it right right right well what you

896
00:43:02,020 --> 00:42:58,670
what you're saying though is that you

897
00:43:03,370 --> 00:43:02,030
know these these encounters are still

898
00:43:05,049 --> 00:43:03,380
occurring this isn't something that

899
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:05,059
happened to you like back in the 60s

900
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:07,520
noise seventies and then you know who

901
00:43:12,099 --> 00:43:09,410
petered out this is something that it's

902
00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:12,109
it's an ongoing process so to speak oh

903
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:14,750
absolutely yeah this is exactly what

904
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:17,200
we're seeing there was another case in

905
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:20,000
2015 a bunch of students saw these

906
00:43:24,069 --> 00:43:22,520
objects during a fire drill and it was

907
00:43:26,789 --> 00:43:24,079
still out there later during theatre

908
00:43:30,220 --> 00:43:26,799
class some up you know hour later

909
00:43:32,650 --> 00:43:30,230
there's a lot of good cases all over the

910
00:43:37,390 --> 00:43:32,660
world and we're got kids down in Mexico

911
00:43:42,130 --> 00:43:37,400
Brazil Argentina cases in China cases

912
00:43:45,099 --> 00:43:42,140
and all across Europe England Canada so

913
00:43:47,319 --> 00:43:45,109
it's still ongoing I'm not quite as

914
00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:47,329
active it seems like it was in the 50s

915
00:43:52,470 --> 00:43:50,420
and 60s but you know sometimes these

916
00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:52,480
cases take a while to trickle down into

917
00:43:59,289 --> 00:43:55,849
you know researchers mm-hmm

918
00:44:01,770 --> 00:43:59,299
well that's okay that now to me now

919
00:44:04,740 --> 00:44:01,780
that's that's an interesting though

920
00:44:07,450 --> 00:44:04,750
aspect of it I mean do you think that

921
00:44:09,650 --> 00:44:07,460
possibly that there was a time when

922
00:44:13,309 --> 00:44:09,660
there was a concentrated

923
00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:13,319
effort and you know now we're seeing the

924
00:44:18,559 --> 00:44:16,920
results of it and it's you know it's you

925
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:18,569
know possibly the phenomenon of starting

926
00:44:22,579 --> 00:44:20,940
to you know go go in a different

927
00:44:24,559 --> 00:44:22,589
direction for it'll you know who knows

928
00:44:27,499 --> 00:44:24,569
what yeah I was kicked into high gear

929
00:44:29,779 --> 00:44:27,509
for sure during the nineteen mid-1960s

930
00:44:32,420 --> 00:44:29,789
when Jim and Coral rents in Warren feel

931
00:44:34,190 --> 00:44:32,430
about it as did John keel Raymond Fowler

932
00:44:36,829 --> 00:44:34,200
heard about this he's like oh you know

933
00:44:39,410 --> 00:44:36,839
I've had 16 cases and eight of them were

934
00:44:41,210 --> 00:44:39,420
over schools and a typical case was

935
00:44:42,859 --> 00:44:41,220
Beverly High School or a bunch of people

936
00:44:45,319 --> 00:44:42,869
saw this object come right over the

937
00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:45,329
school came solo over this group of

938
00:44:50,150 --> 00:44:47,220
witnesses that one of them Peter pants I

939
00:44:52,579 --> 00:44:50,160
mean it was like 20 feet up the police

940
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:52,589
were called they saw it and this object

941
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:54,900
took off over Beverly High School and

942
00:44:57,980 --> 00:44:57,089
went straight to Gordon College about

943
00:45:01,759 --> 00:44:57,990
two miles away

944
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:01,769
and did a dive towards the quad there

945
00:45:08,450 --> 00:45:03,210
and scared the Wits out of another group

946
00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,460
of students yeah they're clearly going

947
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:11,119
competence in case after case

948
00:45:16,009 --> 00:45:13,650
all right well Preston unfortunately we

949
00:45:18,349 --> 00:45:16,019
only have about three minutes left in

950
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:18,359
the show so why don't you let our

951
00:45:23,630 --> 00:45:21,569
audience though where they can where

952
00:45:27,460 --> 00:45:23,640
they can find your books your website

953
00:45:29,299 --> 00:45:27,470
and as well you know any upcoming

954
00:45:32,180 --> 00:45:29,309
appearances or anything like that that

955
00:45:34,069 --> 00:45:32,190
you want to talk about yeah I appreciate

956
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:34,079
that I do have an upcoming appearance at

957
00:45:40,370 --> 00:45:38,130
the UFO con 2020 up in Northern

958
00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:40,380
California and this is like February 20

959
00:45:46,999 --> 00:45:44,670
23rd around there on that last weekend

960
00:45:49,789 --> 00:45:47,009
there I'll be speaking actually on this

961
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:49,799
subject schoolyard UFOs on possibly the

962
00:45:55,190 --> 00:45:51,569
subject of my next book if it's out yet

963
00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,200
but we'll see you can learn more about

964
00:45:59,480 --> 00:45:57,960
my books and my research at my website

965
00:46:01,849 --> 00:45:59,490
if you just google my name it should

966
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:01,859
take you there but it's Preston tenet we

967
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:04,410
bleed calm all my books are available on

968
00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:06,170
Amazon you know Barnes and Noble and

969
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:08,700
hopefully bookstores near you if you can

970
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:15,900
find one appreciate it well we we are

971
00:46:23,540 --> 00:46:18,690
coming upon the holiday season here and

972
00:46:29,270 --> 00:46:25,400
thank you for listening and commenting

973
00:46:31,250 --> 00:46:29,280
on our show and buying our books and I

974
00:46:33,170 --> 00:46:31,260
want to remind you that we have two

975
00:46:35,420 --> 00:46:33,180
books coming out hopefully just before

976
00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:35,430
the holiday which you'll be able to get

977
00:46:41,210 --> 00:46:37,230
you through us directly or from

978
00:46:46,210 --> 00:46:41,220
amazon.com what is it Tim Schwartz is

979
00:46:49,460 --> 00:46:46,220
book of incredible alien encounters with

980
00:46:52,580 --> 00:46:49,470
contributors from probably I think what

981
00:46:55,610 --> 00:46:52,590
about 20 25 contributors right at least

982
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:55,620
yes base impressed and being one of them

983
00:47:00,770 --> 00:46:58,290
by the way and indeed on the healing

984
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:00,780
encounters and then we have a Timothy

985
00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:02,730
green Beckley's big book

986
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:08,520
it's the UFOs deja vu skinwalker

987
00:47:16,490 --> 00:47:13,710
skinwalkers and shapeshifters and more

988
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:16,500
encounters with the humanoids and so you

989
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:18,450
can look for those on Amazon or drop us

990
00:47:24,020 --> 00:47:20,880
an email or you'll learn about it

991
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:24,030
through certainly the conspiracy journal

992
00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:28,470
dot-com and again listen to the shows of

993
00:47:35,090 --> 00:47:32,580
the kco our archives we've I think done

994
00:47:37,910 --> 00:47:35,100
about 400 interviews now and of course

995
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:37,920
our YouTube channel is very active it's

996
00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:43,650
mr. UFOs secret files and thanks again

997
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:48,420
for your contribution to the world of

998
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:50,490
ufology Preston you've done a great job

999
00:47:56,420 --> 00:47:53,390
and you've been really a great

1000
00:47:57,950 --> 00:47:56,430
researcher and Tim and Tino we'll talk

1001
00:48:00,320 --> 00:47:57,960
to you next week and thank you Peter

1002
00:48:06,370 --> 00:48:00,330
thank you Helen thank you Carolyn thank

1003
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:09,289
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